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Crown legitimacy and successions


Table of Contents
The Lily
Bourbons
Other dynasties
A branch
The heirs



Introduction

This issue is linked to the themes of: Treasures, Monarchs, Three brothers

It is sometimes difficult to determine that a quatrain belongs to the past or the future. So the meaning must be clearly established. BON-BOURG means Bourbon in most cases, and this is the last French dynasty of kings (Spanish nowadays). But in other cases, this word would point to a French village (literally "Good Town"). The criteria for regrouping the quatrains are based on logic and keywords.

The Lily

The lily is the symbol of the French royal dynasty. It here refers to some important character linked to the legitimate crown inheritor.

5.39  Lily, Florence
"Issued from the true branch of the fleur-de-lis,"
Placed and lodged as heir of Etruria:
"His ancient blood woven by long hand,"
He will cause the escutcheon of Florence to bloom.

Posted by: John
Lily is the French Monarchy symbol.

8.18  Lily, Flore
"The cause of her death will be issued from Florence,"
one time before drunk by young and old;
by the three lilies they will give her a great pause.
Save through her offspring as raw meat is dampened.

5.50  Lily, Shaking - link with lily on X-79
"The year that the brothers of the lily come of age,"
One of them will hold the great Romania:
"The mountains to tremble, Latin passage opened,"
Agreement to march against the fort of Armenia.

10.79  Hercules lily, Shaking - link with lily on 5-50
"The old roads will all be improved,"
One will proceed on them to the modern Memphis:
"The great Mercury of Hercules fleur-de-lis,"
"Causing to tremble lands, sea and country."

5.61  Not necessarily the Shaking - possible link with lily on 5-50 and Great
"The child of the great one not by his birth,"
He will subjugate the high Apennine mountains:
"He will cause all those of the balance to tremble,"
And from the Pyrenees to Mont Cenis.

5.89  Faked sedition, lily
"Into Hungary through Bohemia, Navarre,"
and under that banner holy insurrections:
"By the fleur-de-lis legion carrying the bar,"
Against OrlÚans they will cause disturbances.

6.62  Snakes law snake, two flowers - lily
"Too late both the flowers will be lost,"
The serpent will not want to act against the law:
"The forces of the Leaguers confounded by the French,"
"Savona, Albenga through Monaco great martyrdom."

9.18  Voter of the empire, lily dauffois (translated into Dauphin, with no certainty)
"The lily of the Dauphin will reach into Nancy,"
As far as Flanders the Elector of the Empire:
"New confinement for the great Montmorency,"
Outside proven places delivered to celebrated punishment.

Bourbons

Some of these elements belong to Nostradamus' close future. The first Bourbon to pretend to the crown started while Nostradamus was writing the Centuries. But his attempt failed.

A5910  Bourbon
Here in all will come to a close,
The three Greats out, the BON-BOVRG (good town) will be far,
And against them one will plot,
By month end the need will be seen;

7.44  Bourbon
Quatrains remain to be published (3).

Posted by: John
Louis XVI undoubtedly.

A6201  Bon (Fr. good) without Bourg (town)
The hidden desire for the good will succeed,
Religion, peace, love and concord:
The nuptial song will not be completely in accord,
The high ones, who are low, and high, put to the rope.

Posted by: Laury
Louis XVI undoubtedly.

10.43  Bon (Fr. good) without Bourg (town)
"Too much good times, too much of royal goodness,"
"Ones made and unmade, quick, sudden, neglectful:"
"Lightly will he believe falsely of his loyal wife,"
He put to death through his benevolence.

Posted by: Laury
Louis XVI undoubtedly.

Other dynasties

Linked to the theme of the crown legitimacy.

10.45  Legitimacy
"The shadow of the realm of Navarre untrue,"
It will make his life one of fate unlawful:
"The vow made in Cambrai wavering,"
King OrlÚans will give a lawful wall.

Posted by: Laury
The Navarian (Henry IV) and the Orléanais (French text) were near unknown at the time of Nostradamus.

9.84  Legitimacy, tomb - cannot be separated from the previous one
"The King exposed will complete the slaughter,"
After having discovered his origin:
"Torrent to open the tomb of marble and lead,"
Of a great Roman with Medusine device.

Posted by: Laury
Torrent indicates that the tomb is located in the mountains or that it will be discovered on a day of floods.

9.7  Monument - legitimacy
"He who will open the tomb found,"
"And will come to close it promptly,"
"Evil will come to him, and one will be unable to prove,"
If it would be better to be a Breton or Norman King.

Posted by: Laury
Could it be that Bretueil names a Bourbon or Navarrian. Not impossible. Nostradamus must have perceived the consequences of Catherine de Médicis' absence of grand children. And maybe the seer was involved in some sort of a plot against the royal dynasty.

6.57  Succeed / Inherit
"He who was well forward in the realm,"
"Having a red chief close to the hierarchy,"
"Harsh and cruel, and he will make himself much feared,"
He will succeed to the sacred monarchy.

3.80  Indignity of the English King
"The worthy one chased out of the English realm,"
The adviser through anger put to the fire:
His adherents will go so low to efface themselves
That the bastard will be half received.

4.96  Crown legitimacy - Oldest sister of the British Isle - maybe Scotland or France
The elder sister of the British Isle
"Will be born fifteen years before her brother,"
"Because of her promise procuring verification,"
She will succeed to the kingdom of the balance.

Posted by: John
France being the "Church oldest daughter", then England would be its small sister.

2.73  Three crowns
"The shore of Lake Garda to Lake Fucino,"
Taken from the Lake of Geneva to the port of L'Orguion:
"Born with three arms the predicted warlike image,"
Through three crowns to the great Endymion.

H038  Sovereign, crown legitimacy
The one second in age, accompanied by the Latins, will penetrate far, until a second furious and trembling path has been beaten to the Great St. Bernard Pass. From there he will descend to mount the Pyrenees, which will not, however, be transferred to the French crown. And this third one will cause a great inundation of human blood, and for a long time Lent will not include March.

A branch

The branch could refer in some parts of the text to a royal inheritance.

1.100  Branch
For a long time a gray bird will be seen in the sky
near D¶le and the lands of Tuscany.
"He holds a flowering branch in his beak,"
but he dies too soon and the war ends.

5.39  Branch, lily
"Issued from the true branch of the fleur-de-lis,"
Placed and lodged as heir of Etruria:
"His ancient blood woven by long hand,"
He will cause the escutcheon of Florence to bloom.

2.20  Branch, pass near the sovereign
Brothers and sisters captive in diverse places
Will find themselves passing near the monarch:
"Contemplating them his branches attentive,"
"Displeasing to see the marks on chin, forehead and nose."

5.35  Branch, Selin
"For the free city of the great Crescent sea,"
"Which still carries the stone in its stomach,"
The English fleet will come under the drizzle
"To seize a branch, war opened by the great one."

6.11  Branch, seven branches, link with la Grea Llady
"The seven branches will be reduced to three,"
"The elder ones will be surprised by death,"
"The two will be seduced to fratricide,"
The conspirators will be dead while sleeping.

1.30  Branch
Because of the storm at sea the foreign ship
will approach an unknown port.
"Notwithstanding the signs of the palm branches,"
afterwards there is death and pillage. Good advice comes too late.

3.14  Branch, simple man
Through the branch of the valiant personage
Of lowest France: because of the unhappy father
"Honors, riches, travail in his old age,"
For having believed the advice of a simple man.

Posted by: Raul Lence King
May refer to Nostradamus.

6.29  Branch
"The saintly widow hearing the news,"
Of her offspring placed in perplexity and trouble:
"He who will be instructed to appease the quarrels,"
He will pile them up by his pursuit of the shaven heads.

H056  Branch
The people of the world from this benevolent slavery to which they had voluntary submitted. He will put himself under the protection of Mars, stripping Jupiter of all his honors and dignities, and establish himself in the free city in another scant Mesopotamia.

5.65  Lady, charcoal, Terror
"Come suddenly the terror will be great,"
Hidden by the principal ones of the affair:
"And the lady on the charcoal will no longer be in sight,"
Thus little by little will the great ones be angered.

Posted by: John
Possibly NY.

6.19  Lady in flame
The true flame will devour the lady
Who will want to put the Innocent Ones to the fire:
"Before the assault the army is inflamed,"
When in Seville a monster in beef will be seen.

1.2  Branches, Astrology
The wand in the hand is placed in the middle of the tripod's legs.
With water he sprinkles both the hem of his garment and his foot.
"A voice, fear: he trembles in his robes."
Divine splendor; the God sits nearby.

2.2  Branches, France
The blue head will inflict upon the white head
As much evil as France has done them good:
Dead at the sail-yard the great one hung on the branch.
When seized by his own the King will say how much.

5.3  Branch, Gauls (Roman Gauls)
"The successor to the Duchy will come,"
Very far beyond the Tuscan Sea:
"A Gallic branch will hold Florence,"
The nautical Frog in its bosom be agreement.

4.33  Branches, Astrology
Jupiter joined more to Venus than to the Moon
Appearing with white fullness:
Venus hidden under the whiteness of Neptune
Struck by Mars through the white stew.

The heirs

Nostradamus often mentions the "heirs", and this may just refer to the royal dynasty.

A5905  Heir
Through the deceived marriage, nuptial poem,
By the three Reds parts, Shaved left,
To the young black remitted the flame of the soul,
To the great Neptium Ogmius converted.

1.9  Heir
From the Orient will come the African heart
to trouble Hadrie and the heirs of Romulus.
Accompanied by the Libyan fleet
the temples of Malta and nearby islands shall be deserted.

A6707  Heir
Death still approaching, the royal and legate gift,
Will be put to the front what is, because of age, in ruin,
The young blacks (hoirs), because of suspicion act voided,
Treasure found in plasters & kitchen.


Lily by Raul Lence King  
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